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an obama phone if you ask, whether you need it or not. >> you got no, everybody in cleveland is a minority got an obama phone. >> eric: arizona busted up the largest food stamp prad in the state's history. there must be more of that. what do you think of all the stuff going on? >> this was founded on the principle of the individual rights. your life belongs to you. that's why none of the social progressive programs are in the competition. the pros peerous time came before any of the programs were enacted. the social ills have risen along with all the entitlements. and welfare programs whether it's not verity, food stamp or college cost. i hurts the recipients more than anyone. it retards and that skill. >> eric: this is a maker versus takers. people are making and put in system but a lot of people take out of the system. your thoughts? >> these are supposed to be short-term fixes but this has become a way of life. it's leading to a up the of abuse. 46 million people on food stamps in america. the fraud cases increase by 30%. that is $800 million. that is a up the of money. our focus is no
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